oh boy

[lauralh]

"Humorist" writes about 2-year-old getting kicked out of preschool. HILARITY ENSUES.

edit: more hilarity! although, not quite as funny.

Comments

[eyelid.livejournal.com]

I said that he doesn't need therapy, I didn't say that he definitely doesn't have a medical problem.
You know, a LOT of two-year-olds act up. That's why they're called the "terrible twos." Very few have medical problems.


I have occasionally used a swear word in front of them or to them, but not in that context.
Well then I guess your kids are the only ones in the whole world who will be raised the RIGHT way. Most kids have psychotic abusive parents who actually yell at their children when bitten and thus the vast majority of the world's children will grow up broken and maimed.


all the father said was "you can only bite girls when they want you to".
You do realize that you're assuming this one joking statement is the only thing he's ever said to his kid about this ever.


After not punishing the kid for biting children at school
See above re: it not being very useful to attempt to discipline a 2-year-old for something that happened HOURS ago.


This is where you're wrong, most two year olds do not leave bloody wounds on other children.
I guess I would have been wrong if I had said "most two year olds leave bloody wounds on other children."


the parents don't want to take him to get him evaluated, because it would inconvenience them, not because they can't.
Now this you're pulling out of your ass. You have absolutely no idea if he's been "evaluated" or, if not, why not.


We did not write an article about how stupid it was for the school to expel her for hurting another child.
I don't think that's what his article was saying. I think it was lamenting the lack of options for parents who have children with severe behavioral problems, and explaining why this is hard on the parents.

I guess we just have different attitudes about children. I think children can be difficult even if they're not handicapped. I think that parents should be able to express frustration without being pilloried. And I think that children are pretty resiliant and will in general grow up just fine even if they don't have the most slavishly devoted, OCD attachment parent that ever breastfed till five. You on the other hand feel that behavioral problems are the parent's fault unless it's your kid. While that's convenient, I don't really buy it.

[bitchness.livejournal.com]

*sigh* Sorry about your comments page Laural.

You know, a LOT of two-year-olds act up. That's why they're called the "terrible twos." Very few have medical problems.
Yes, a lot of two year olds go through a stage where they bite. Did you read the article? This child was not just biting, he was leaving bleeding wounds on other children every day, and having to be forcibly restrained from attacking other children 4-5 times a day. That is NOT normal.

Well then I guess your kids are the only ones in the whole world who will be raised the RIGHT way. Most kids have psychotic abusive parents who actually yell at their children when bitten and thus the vast majority of the world's children will grow up broken and maimed.
No, most children do not have parents who yell and swear at them.

You do realize that you're assuming this one joking statement is the only thing he's ever said to his kid about this ever.
No, I'm saying that that was the most opportune time to make the child understand that biting the little girl was a severely punishable offense. Obviously he's bright enough to understand that, unless the parents are exaggerating his intelligence by a lot.

See above re: it not being very useful to attempt to discipline a 2-year-old for something that happened HOURS ago.
You have no idea how long it was between the biting incident and when they came to pick him up. It could have been minutes, you're assuming now.

I guess I would have been wrong if I had said "most two year olds leave bloody wounds on other children."
The article did, and you continue to call the little boy's behavior 'normal'.

Now this you're pulling out of your ass. You have absolutely no idea if he's been "evaluated" or, if not, why not.
Yes, I do. I read the article. It said that their insurance doesn't cover 'therapy', which most people lump psychological evaluations with, but insurance companies do not.

I don't think that's what his article was saying. I think it was lamenting the lack of options for parents who have children with severe behavioral problems, and explaining why this is hard on the parents.
You really need to reread the article. They mentioned a study that recommends that kids should NEVER be expelled from preschools, very obviously blaming the daycare for not having enough staff for one on one time with each kid.

I guess we just have different attitudes about children. I think children can be difficult even if they're not handicapped. I think that parents should be able to express frustration without being pilloried. And I think that children are pretty resiliant and will in general grow up just fine even if they don't have the most slavishly devoted, OCD attachment parent that ever breastfed till five. You on the other hand feel that behavioral problems are the parent's fault unless it's your kid. While that's convenient, I don't really buy it.

I think that children can be difficult, but difficult does not equate to attempting to severely injure other children 4-6 times per day. Neurological disabilities are nobody's fault, but if the parent chooses to allow that kind of behavior to continue without consequences, and refuses to have their child evaluated, then yes, they are at fault.

My child is autistic, by the way, do you know what that means? It is not a true 'behavioral' problem, but it can cause them. It is not my fault that my child is autistic, and if Mr. Pollack's son is autistic it's also, not his fault. Having issues like this arise however, and ignoring them, that is his fault. I have never expected my daughter's issues to resolve themselves. I have been busting my ass to get her evaluated and properly diagnosed for years. I had her in a child care facility that was equipped to handle her special needs, and she is currently in a class at school that can accomodate her needs, I don't put her in with unsuspecting 9 year olds so she can assault them.