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Sep. 29th, 2004 03:24 pm
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Communism is stupid.
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Date: 2004-09-29 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trixiefirecat.livejournal.com
ideal on paper, not so great in application.

Date: 2004-09-29 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harryh.livejournal.com
How exactly is it ideal on paper?

Date: 2004-09-29 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
hahah that's what people always say

DUDE

Date: 2004-09-29 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
I NEARLY WROTE THAT

ps, I'm kind of a commie

Date: 2004-09-29 03:52 pm (UTC)
ext_213697: Doctor Strange, Sorceror Supreme (thinky)
From: [identity profile] purgatorius.livejournal.com
Marx is one of my favorite fantasy writers.

You should check out "Towards a Ruthless Criticism of Everything Existing," something amazing he wrote before he invented sharing.

Date: 2004-09-29 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trixiefirecat.livejournal.com
why don't you tell me, exactly, you seem to want to answer this one yourself.

Re: DUDE

Date: 2004-09-29 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harryh.livejournal.com
Great minds snark alike.

Date: 2004-09-29 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bedpimp.livejournal.com
Most any form of government works splendidly with a population under 50. Once it grows beyond that, corruption will begin to spoil it.

Date: 2004-09-29 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-and-i.livejournal.com
i think its a good idea

Date: 2004-09-29 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jjsaysblah.livejournal.com
"communism is stupid"

pretty close to a self evident semantic statement.

communism assumes everyone is an angel, when that flies in the face of all available evidence.

Date: 2004-09-29 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lisa.livejournal.com


i believe all humans have a right to education, food, shelter and a job, some of the premise of communism. a community where all of these are provided *by the community* in my opinion would be a hell of a lot better off than our sad country.

what's unfortunate is where you have the case of a government telling you you're living under one or more guiding principles/ideologies when in fact its not at all the case. i.e. various communist countries and the u.s.

Date: 2004-09-29 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xkissikx.livejournal.com
i am sad i am unfriended... =(

Date: 2004-09-29 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geah.livejournal.com
What job should the community provide for each person?

As it is now, if you don't have food, shelter and an education, you have only yourself to blame.

Date: 2004-09-29 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrven.livejournal.com
I like that icon.

Date: 2004-09-29 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrven.livejournal.com
I'd say communism is naive. It doesn't take into account human nature, which is inherently selfish and requires a system of accountability. Free market capitalism is one system for establishing accountability around relatively non-abstracted means, although there are certainly other approaches. I do appreciate the social welfare ideals of communism; it's important to implement these without creating a cycle of learned helplessness, however.

As a note, I initially started my business with social democratic ideals. It failed miserably. I am not willing to say this was fully a flaw in the structure as much as a conflict between the structure and American culture. It could be argued, however, that this culture is bread directly out of biological programming and thus human nature not social conditioning. Regardless, I've implemented a free market capitalist approach and it has been incredibly successful, even despite violating my original ideals.

Date: 2004-09-29 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audiguy.livejournal.com
generally ideals are stupid because they never work in practice.

capitalism is just as stupid when taken to the extreme.

Date: 2004-09-29 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thisgirliknow.livejournal.com
I think that while the idea of communism is simply wonderful, dictatorship simply doesn't work, atleast in this country. In practice, communism tends to be not so good. The only example where it HAS worked is on the Kibbutzes in Israel.

Date: 2004-09-29 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sanguine37.livejournal.com
Jesus was a communist!

Date: 2004-09-29 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hober.livejournal.com
Most of the comments so far make me sad.

Date: 2004-09-29 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moderndayknight.livejournal.com
Communism is a political/economic ideology -- it has no intelligence.

Communists, however, are fucking idiots.

Date: 2004-09-29 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fritz-da-kat.livejournal.com
Communism is not naive at all. It did very well take into consideration the human nature and in this process it tried to suppress it using terror. It is a common misconception that communism ideas are generally good, but they were badly implemented in the various communist regimes: communism ideas themselves entail murder.
What you see in North Korea nowadays is successful, by-the-book communism. What you have in China now, is failed communism.

Date: 2004-09-29 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fritz-da-kat.livejournal.com
I agree with your first statement. However, from my experience I can assure you that exactly the contrary is true with regard to your second one. Communism assumes everybody is a class enemy, until he proves himself a worthy, obedient and brainwashed member of the new order.

Date: 2004-09-30 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrven.livejournal.com
That's reasonable.

Date: 2004-09-30 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrven.livejournal.com
Hardly: he was arguably anti-establishment and anti-authoritarian, the latter of which is fundamental to communist implementation. Jesus beleived in managing the society through cultural change; he arguably had faith in the inherent potential of human kind to transcend its selfish roots through the meme of religious dogma as a method of creating order through adherence to set ideological principles as opposed to a strict legal authority.

Irrelevant Negativland Reference

Date: 2004-09-30 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patrick.livejournal.com
And the loud speaker spoke up and said,
"Christianity is stupid!
Communism is good!"
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