another music post *sorta*

[lauralh]

I don't believe in unconditional love. To me loving someone without any conditions at all is similar to liking a band or um say director even after they "sold out." On the one hand, I don't actually believe in selling out per se, unless you happen to be Liz Phair or Weezer*. On the other hand, your fans are the reason you have any money at all, and they like what you produce, so don't change dammit. Granted sometimes you already liked the style they changed into, like when U2 got all techno-ish, so it's no big deal. But there's very few bands or people that are so great that no matter what genre they touch, it's golden.


*Or George Lucas.

Comments

[baroof.livejournal.com]

hmm. I have to disagree that an artist changing genres is the same as selling out. when you start restricting artists to only the genres they've been successful in, they'll start doing it not for the love of creating music, but because they want to make money, which is what I feel is the definition of selling out (doing something *purely* for the profit).

and george lucas isn't just a sellout. he's past that. he's evil.

[herbaliser.livejournal.com]

perhaps but a lot of people do interpret that as "selling out." And it works for my analogy.

(A lot of people thought Moby's Play was selling out, but really Everything is Wrong is his official "sell-out" album, for example.)

[chris.livejournal.com]

but surely not moby ;)

[herbaliser.livejournal.com]

i was waiting for someone to comment on that

the 14 year old me sitting in my room singing along to "flower" is sobbing to herself.

[lisa.livejournal.com]

oh gawd every time i hear liz phairs new album i want to kill myself.

yeah

[herbaliser.livejournal.com]

I accidentally heard one of the singles on the radio a few weeks ago. Gah.

[thesadpunk.livejournal.com]

But there's very few bands or people that are so great that no matter what genre they touch, it's golden.

Um, Morrissey. Duh.

while I am highly inclined to agree about anything related to god,

[herbaliser.livejournal.com]

I don't really think going from the Smiths to his current solo career is all that much of a genre crossover, though.

Re: while I am highly inclined to agree about anything related to god,

[thesadpunk.livejournal.com]

I understand what you're saying. I guess that's where we differ in our love for Morrissey though, because even if his techno or reggae efforts did suck, hell if I'd ever admit it.

Re: while I am highly inclined to agree about anything related to god,

[mattholland.livejournal.com]

whoa. morrisey had techno and reggae efforts?

a very little known label released them

[herbaliser.livejournal.com]

They sucked, though.

Re: a very little known label released them

[thesadpunk.livejournal.com]

Sellout.

[freyja.livejournal.com]

that's part of the reason i wish there was a greater split between fame, art, and tons of money. people should be allowed to experiment in their art, and grow as people and artists. i'll grant them that. that makes sense. but then you'd see art as more of a "hobby" than a "career." in which case, where do the multimillion dollar label deals fit in? sometimes i think there should be a huge change in the music industry, but i'm not sure what. something akin to what should change in the sports industry, i reckon. people don't get a million dollars knitting sweaters, but at least the sweaters keep you warm.

blahblahblah.

[keithmcnally.livejournal.com]

This talk of selling out is all well and good, but what does that have to do with not believing in unconditional love? I'm not seeing the connection. How does your significant other sell out? Laural, were you drunk when you wrote this? It was 11 am, for god's sake! Sober up!

i may be drunk, but you're the only one who needed this explained...

[herbaliser.livejournal.com]

I thought it was pretty obvious that people change just like bands and you don't have to keep liking them even though you used to.

Re: i may be drunk, but you're the only one who needed this explained...

[keithmcnally.livejournal.com]

I think it's pretty obvious that you're drunk!

I gotta visit Washington sometime. You gotta take me to kareoke. I wanna have a nickname in your livejournal. I wanna be known as "sex machine", and all your friends can nod sagely when you mention me. Even your male friends will be fully aware of and incapacitated by the power of sexiness I exude.

i guess that beats "comic book store guy"

[herbaliser.livejournal.com]

Have you even had sex yet?

Re: i guess that beats "comic book store guy"

[keithmcnally.livejournal.com]

Must... not... dignify with... response...

Re: i guess that beats "comic book store guy"

[lemur68.livejournal.com]

OMFG PWNED1

[lemur68.livejournal.com]

unless you happen to be Liz Phair or Weezer*.

I have to wonder if Liz Phair's new target audience is even old enough to own an album that includes a song called "Hot White Cum."

*Or George Lucas.

Eh...selling out implies you had integrity to begin with.