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Jun. 6th, 2003 01:57 pm
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  • Week two of birth control is about over. I haven't gained an ounce, haven't grown breasts, haven't lost my sex drive, and my skin is not clearing up. In fact I'm losing weight, my boobs seem to be smaller, my libido is as bad as it's ever been, and I'm getting a few more zits than normal. I suspect that my body has upped its testosterone production to counter the estro/progesto it's been receiving. Like the opposite of Bob and his Bitch Tits.

  • OMFG I am so fucking pissed off. I truly hate Bush, because he hates me, because I'm a woman.

  • The Pho Coma is no more. I went to get some Pho and couldn't. So I got Thai instead. Cutest little restaurant ever, open till 10 most nights. I'm sure it's about to go out of business; Friday lunch time there were three people in there.

  • It's hot for Seattle but the humidity is record low. So it's incredibly pleasant. I'm southern enough that I refuse to wear shorts unless it's over 80 degrees. I got a little bit of color. Very little, as I didn't want to burn.

    EDIT: just in case you missed it in the whole abortion debate comments.
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    Date: 2003-06-06 02:02 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] katyakoshka.livejournal.com
    I truly hate Bush, because he hates me, because I'm a woman.

    I've said the exact same thing. And it is true. He hates women. All those fuckers do.

    And I will revile them in return. Of course, it would be better to take part in fighting back. And that's my own damned fault.

    Date: 2003-06-06 02:45 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] fidelity-astro.livejournal.com
    percentage-wise, more women are pro-life than are men.



    also, the partial birth abortion was invented specifically because it was faster. it has no other benefits and there has never been a single case in which it medically necessary. it's also pretty gruesome.



    so chill, ladies




    (besides, bush has never been in favor of banning abortion, or don't you remember his campaign?)

    Date: 2003-06-06 02:56 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] cpf.livejournal.com
    Percentage-wise, more women get abortions than men.

    Odds are the upped percentile of pro-lifers are ones that are scared of the procedure, or any surgery for that matter. There's a lot of emotional/chemical fallout from having an abortion as well. This does not necessarily make it "wrong".

    And a lot of those guys are teen dads and deadbeats who didn't want the kid and won't be there to support it.

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:00 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] fidelity-astro.livejournal.com
    why yes. i'm sure that's the most logical explanation for that statistic. besides, um, the obvious one

    you know, that people have their own opinions and stuff.

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:03 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] sativaleaf.livejournal.com
    As much as I support a woman's right to choose, and am usually at odds with this administrations policies and ideals, I am in agreement with the fact that partial-birth abortions are just wrong (unless there's something REALLY wrong w/ the child genetically)...

    Hypathetically speaking, there's gotta be a special place in hell for women who wait THAT long to kill their kid... I mean really... that's just sick as well as irresponsible.
    I think it's sad that they even need to PASS a law like that...

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:06 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
    The main problem is though that there's no HEALTH PROVISION in the bill. Like, if the mother's life is in danger, BIG DEAL.

    Re:

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:08 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] sativaleaf.livejournal.com
    Totally.
    And that's the problem I have with the administration... the half-assness of the policies...

    Most definitely an important detail to omit.

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:11 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] hotcrab.livejournal.com
    actually, when you consider the "gag rule", he is anti-choice.
    we no longer provide aid to any international organization that even uses the word "abortion"

    the banning of partial-birth abortion is not as insignificant as it seems. while i will certainly agree that it is not a pretty picture, this is just another example of conservatives chipping away the row v. wade decision.

    making abortion illegal isn't going to stop women from having abortions. its just going to make sure that more of them die in the process. frankly, thats disgusting.

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:12 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] hotcrab.livejournal.com
    my opinion is thats a bad haircut

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:19 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] fidelity-astro.livejournal.com
    Image
    NICE ATTEMPT AT FACIAL HAIR, FATTY!

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:23 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] fidelity-astro.livejournal.com
    ugh. who says "anti-choice"?

    we let you say "pro-choice" and you let us say "pro-life" i think is a pretty fair deal. i mean, pro-life is a bit more descriptive than pro-choice, which is pretty much the boradest most vague sounding term in political vocabulary.



    but seriously you rude motherfucker, you're points have nothing to do with anything because:


    1. Bush isn't in favor of banning abortions. I didn't say he was "pro-choice" (whatever the fuck that means)

    2. Not as insignificant as it seems? Could you maybe back that up? A little? I mean, at least I provided some reasons when I said it WAS insignificant. And the slippery slope argument is totally gay. (Hot tip: call me on being a homophobe!)

    3. NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MAKING ABORTIONS ILLEGAL



    geez

    Re:

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:28 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] hotcrab.livejournal.com
    i was just being cheeky, pissant

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:30 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] fidelity-astro.livejournal.com
    (reiterating something i said)


    i actually watched the entire senate debate of this bill on c-span and while i was conflicted at the beginning, by the end i was pretty solidly in favor of it.

    the thing is that there's never been a single recorded case when it's been medically necessary, and not only that those in favor of it can't even describe a case where it WOULD be. basically the only reason that the practice exists is because it's much faster than a regular abortion and therefore takes up less of a doctor's time.


    another intresting thing about it is that it wasn't invented by an OBGYN (as regular abortion methods were) but rather by someone who just made his living performing abortions, so it's not exactly the most scientific thing.

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:31 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] fidelity-astro.livejournal.com
    yeah, you've got a lot of those.

    and also, chins.

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:37 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
    It's not just the D&X. (http://www.aclu.org/ReproductiveRights/ReproductiveRights.cfm?ID=12813&c=143)

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:37 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] hotcrab.livejournal.com
    i hear people who identify themselves as "pro-life" use the term "pro-abortion" on the radio all the time.

    "pro-choice" means i think people should have the right to make their own choice. think of it as "freedom" if you will.

    "pro-life" means you like life, i guess. i like life, i must be pro-life.

    "pro-abortion" means everyone should get one. like television.

    "anti-choice" means you are against people having their own choice. you want to make that choice for them. this, in my mind, is the most valid name for the anti-abortion movement.

    banning partial birth abortions is removing an option from women, restricting their ability to choose. this action would therefore be "anti-choice"

    and as for being rude, i thought there was an implied little smiley at the end of my comment, i'm sorry you didn't get it, but it sounds like maybe you have that problem a lot.

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:39 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] hotcrab.livejournal.com
    wait...you haven't started talking about my mom yet

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:41 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
    but seriously you rude motherfucker, you're points have nothing to do with anything

    "your points"

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:51 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] harryh.livejournal.com
    l4m3

    I am against you killing me. That does not mean that I am anti-choice. It simply means that your freedom ends where my life begins.

    Those who oppose abortion do so because they believe that a fetus deserves the same rights as any other human. Now, you and I may disagree with this opinion, but characterizing this opinion as "anti-choice" is nothing but rhetoric.

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:51 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] 84.livejournal.com
    I would very much like to be proven wrong on this issue in the future, but I am of the mind that this is just the first step in a long process of undermining women's rights in general. Maybe the procedure isn't necessary so much as it is convenient, but if that's the case, where does the line get drawn on necessary? How many are REALLY necessary?

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:53 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
    Those who oppose abortion do so because they believe that a fetus deserves the same rights as any other human. Now, you and I may disagree with this opinion, but characterizing this opinion as "anti-choice" is nothing but rhetoric.

    Except, you know, THE MOTHER CARRYING IT.

    Date: 2003-06-06 03:56 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
    My personal opinion is that there aren't enough, but then, I'm pretty misanthropic that way.

    Date: 2003-06-06 04:02 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] hotcrab.livejournal.com
    1. in the grand scheme of things, being a l33t h4x0r in a serious political discussion is pretty fuckin lame

    2. maybe your parents wanted you and loved you. or maybe your dad fucked you in the ass every night. i have no idea what your situation growing up was. it just seems monumentally cruel to me to force children to be brought into this workd when their parents don't want them. and don't bring up the adoption thing, because those kids still freak out when they find out their real parents didn't want them

    Date: 2003-06-06 04:05 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
    If they're killing the kid anyway does it matter how, really? I mean I know I'd want it over with as soon as possible if I had to have an abortion at all, let alone that late.

    Date: 2003-06-06 04:08 pm (UTC)
    From: [identity profile] harryh.livejournal.com
    I agree with you, it is monumentally cruel. But that is not the point.

    If a fetus has the same right to life as any other human (I personally don't beleive it should, but that's the premise I'm working from here) then it follows that you should not be allowed to kill it because there is a chance that it will have social problems as it grows up. If 6 months after a child is born its parents change their mind and leave it at a hospital anonymously should the doctors just kill it because of the kid will eventually freak out when it finds out that its real parents didn't want it?
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