Date: 2006-03-01 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suxdonut.livejournal.com
/cries

well, its on, i guess, at least.

Date: 2006-03-01 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sanpaku.livejournal.com
Romney saying he would sign it is different than the assembly passing it. He wants to be taken seriously in the 08 Republican primaries. No one soft on choice need apply.

Date: 2006-03-01 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
Yeah totally.

Date: 2006-03-01 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarlett723.livejournal.com
There are now 10 states have bills (introduced or carried over this session) that would ban abortion or trigger abortion bans if Roe were overturned.

Those states are: GA, IN, KY, MO, MS, OH, OK, SD, TN, WV.

It's been introduced here in OH, but thank god the majority leader killed it. Though if it got enough publicity they'd bring it back out. BTw, USA Today ripped SD a new one about their ban. This is ridiculous. I also spent all morning in health committee hearings because here the want to let pharmacists refuse to fill EC and birth control on "moral grounds" because apparently only the wackos are "moral."

Date: 2006-03-01 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
On the per-state basis, I think you can either have abortion banned and BC freely available, or vice versa. otherwise I wouldn't give a shit.

Date: 2006-03-01 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarlett723.livejournal.com
I'm confused. I don't think I understood your comment. Did you say either you can have abortion and ban contraception or you can ban abortion and have contraception?

Date: 2006-03-01 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
I didn't mean "ban contraception" so much as the whole pharmacists refusing thing. If you don't want people having abortion you better give them contraception. They ain't gonna stop fuckin.

Date: 2006-03-01 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarlett723.livejournal.com
Oh, I agree. But these are the crazies that believe even though up to 50% of fertilized zygotes abort naturally, life still begins and fertilization. So even the slight possiblity that BC prevents implantation (even the FDA says at this point that's not what BC and EC do) is the end of a life.

The particular person who testified this morning also believed in capital punishment. Because criminals aren't "innocent" but fetuses are. Someone should have asked him if he believed in original sin.

Date: 2006-03-01 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ernunnos.livejournal.com
That's a good list of states to avoid spending your tax or vacation dollars in.

Date: 2006-03-01 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
no kidding
whether or not the bills pass :)

Date: 2006-03-02 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris.livejournal.com
with a *possible* exception for the city of atlanta, i cant see myself having any reason to go to those states anyway.

Date: 2006-03-01 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pmford.livejournal.com
i'm not sure if i have a problem with abortion being a states' rights issue...

Date: 2006-03-01 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
I don't either, but I have to admit it's because I live in WA

Date: 2006-03-01 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pmford.livejournal.com
right. and then all the smart, sex-having, abortion loving swingers will move here with their fun times and disposable income while the south and midwest collapse under the weight of poverty and millions and millions of babies. then, when they are at their weakes, we will swoop in and snatch up all of their sweet, sweet corn and tobacco.

Date: 2006-03-01 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamdonte.livejournal.com
mmm...corn...

Date: 2006-03-01 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skiplogic.livejournal.com
serious lols

Date: 2006-03-02 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvet.livejournal.com
also their little girls

Date: 2006-03-02 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris.livejournal.com
yeah, too bad all the federal taxes we pay will just get redirected to welfare and unemployment for all those unwanted children :/

Date: 2006-03-02 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
federal welfare and federal unemployment??

Date: 2006-03-02 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris.livejournal.com
i'm pretty sure there is federal unemployment, but I was mostly generalizing on this idea

all us free-wheeling, care-free, blue-staters are already paying for all the extra babies in the red states.

Date: 2006-03-02 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
yeah. I guess I just thought that since you have to apply through the state, federal taxes didn't apply.

Date: 2006-03-01 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarlett723.livejournal.com
the biggest problem with the death of roe would not be abortion. It would be the erosion of privacy rights. This is something that a lot of people (gays, anyone who enjoys oral sex or s&m) don't want to happen. This means that people can start legislating sexuality again. It's fair game. I don't know about you, but that scares the crap out of me.

Oh, in other random crazy right wing news, I had to love that a commenatator on NPR totally called the Bush Admin on the fear thing. That they have trained people to respond in fear to the Arabs so it's no wonder that the country freaked out about the ports thing. That was a totally unrelated comment. :)

Date: 2006-03-02 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kamakhai.livejournal.com
I'm the same in that it would be difficult for me to care less what South Dakota wanted to make legal or illegal because I have little intention of ever spending more time within the state's borders than it might take me to drive across a highway that happens to run through it.

However, this clearly isn't just a local issue. This has been planned for a long time by people (most of whom live outside of South Dakota) who aspire to force their restrictive views on the entire country. I do have a problem with that.

Date: 2006-03-02 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heraclitus.livejournal.com
We Canadians will be happy to kill American babies for you if your own service providers are no longer operating. They form our fourth largest food-export, after all.

Date: 2006-03-02 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
I thought that was the Irish. Oh, wait, nevermind.
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Date: 2006-03-02 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] herbaliser.livejournal.com
why bother, WA is never gonna ban it

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