and then I edited my interest list

[lauralh]

I'm tired all the time. I fell asleep last night at like, 10pm and woke up at 7am. Hopefully the sudafed I just took will help.

So Reg talked to his doctor about going off vicodin, which he's been on for a while due to back trauma, and they put him on The Patch. Of course it pretty much knocked him out, and he was afraid of not being able to breathe - he smoked two packs of Marb Reds this weekend in a day - so I stayed in bed cuddling him. And boom we both fell asleep. Although I'd been up about five hours longer than him.

my "top ten religious beliefs"

1. Secular Humanism (100%)
2. Unitarian Universalism (97%)
3. Non-theist (95%)
4. Theravada Buddhism (88%)
5. Liberal Quakers (77%)
6. Neo-Pagan (75%)
7. Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (72%)
8. Reform Judaism (66%)
9. New Age (52%)
10. Taoism (51%)

Comments

[verybadlady.livejournal.com]

um, DURAGESIC delivers fentanyl, an opioid pain medication, slowly into the body through the skin....isn't that worse than vicodin? Wait, why did he go off vicodin anyways?

[herbaliser.livejournal.com]

Vicodin = hydrocodone which is also a synthetic opiate. This is a transdermal system, so while it is more powerful, it releases it more gradually, so there's less in your system at a more constant rate.

doctors who overperscribe

[spacemank.livejournal.com]

unfortunately, what he needs is oxycontin, taken daily. Those 3 day duragesic patches are a junkies dream, and when he finally does come off, those are the worst. Typically, short acting (<=8 hours) are not meant to be administered in time release preparations like that. About one hour of that patch is equal to about 12 vicodin, hence all the smoking and noding. better living through chemistry

i think you missed something

[herbaliser.livejournal.com]

1) oxycontin has far more potential to be abused than these patches.
2) the patch releases its medicine at an incredibly slow rate, so it is in no way equivalent to 12 vicodin an hour
3) he is a smoker, that is why he's been smoking.
4) what is "noding"??

Re: i think you missed something

[hotcrab.livejournal.com]

"noding" involves sexually molesting the nodes of a binary tree. may not be legal in your area.

Re: i think you missed something

[spacemank.livejournal.com]

1. I'm not talking about abuse potential, I'm talking about effective analgesic treatment. Ideally he should be given something like ms contin which is morphine in a time release prep. Won't make him so tired/drowsy
2. fentanyl is measured in micrograms, as opposed to milligrams (vicodin). So yeah, its like being a fucked up as 12 vicodin, but for 72 hours.
3. smokers tend to smoke more when really faded
4. noding is the half-sleep opiate users experience (see burroughs)

[herbaliser.livejournal.com]

He's been taking five vicodin a day, and the excessive smoking was related to partying over the weekend.

ok

[spacemank.livejournal.com]

understood

[atonal.livejournal.com]

i can vouch for that last part....jeez. I've been smoking like crazy since I got back.

Re: doctors who overperscribe

[pamc.livejournal.com]

The patches can be a miracle if they work for you (on me the chemical that breaks the skin barrier only makes me break out and the drug can never enter my system). The major pro to the patch for something like chronic pain is that you don't have to wake up ever 4 hours throughout your sleep, take another pill (or two as prescribed) and then wait in agony for 30-45 min while the pill takes effect.

As far as withdrawl, it really depends on the person. I rarely have withdrawl sypmtoms from narcotic painkillers, but my caffeine withdrawls are a bitch.

[herbaliser.livejournal.com]

Reg had shingles last summer, so he already knows what his withdrawal from opiates is like. And he usually isn't woken up from his back pain, but he often has trouble sleeping, and taking more pills often makes it so he can't wake up again.

And they definitely got into his system, apparently.

[aefirpo.livejournal.com]

That test is really retarded.